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	<description>of writing craft and the progress of a fantasy novel, by eliza wyatt</description>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://elizaw.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/world-building-woes/#comment-477</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 08:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just stumbled in.


Would like to know the name of the book your talking about.

I have found the Mike Stackpoles last two series, were very rich.

The Cartography series though a bit odd in the 3rd, was very good IMHO, and the world was very lived in to me.

Look forward to reading more here.

Lee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just stumbled in.</p>
<p>Would like to know the name of the book your talking about.</p>
<p>I have found the Mike Stackpoles last two series, were very rich.</p>
<p>The Cartography series though a bit odd in the 3rd, was very good IMHO, and the world was very lived in to me.</p>
<p>Look forward to reading more here.</p>
<p>Lee</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Kiser</title>
		<link>http://elizaw.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/world-building-woes/#comment-415</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Kiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 00:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s one of the best ways to give your world a sense of size and &quot;Realness&#039;

having characters talk about places they&#039;ve been or are from is realistic and offers cool variances in culture and such without actually having to bring the reader there. I&#039;m looking forward to seeing more of your story!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s one of the best ways to give your world a sense of size and &#8220;Realness&#8217;</p>
<p>having characters talk about places they&#8217;ve been or are from is realistic and offers cool variances in culture and such without actually having to bring the reader there. I&#8217;m looking forward to seeing more of your story!</p>
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		<title>By: elizaw</title>
		<link>http://elizaw.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/world-building-woes/#comment-411</link>
		<dc:creator>elizaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 05:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saint-- I know exactly what you mean.

The reason I really want to do this is because I&#039;m about to finish the second version of my book. I&#039;ve developed the basics to know the general scenery, the general order of things, the general lay of the land and history, but my story completely lacks the sort of richness that I see and admire elsewhere.  I think I might have to do it this way, in fact. Story first, then setting.   Otherwise what comes out is a world not suited for the story in mind, and it&#039;s a whole lot of work for nothing.  

So aside from using it as a form of procrastination, why not world-build &lt;i&gt;within&lt;/i&gt; the story?  Like developing a secondary character.  Someone just came from such and such a place to enter the scene... so, what was it like?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saint&#8211; I know exactly what you mean.</p>
<p>The reason I really want to do this is because I&#8217;m about to finish the second version of my book. I&#8217;ve developed the basics to know the general scenery, the general order of things, the general lay of the land and history, but my story completely lacks the sort of richness that I see and admire elsewhere.  I think I might have to do it this way, in fact. Story first, then setting.   Otherwise what comes out is a world not suited for the story in mind, and it&#8217;s a whole lot of work for nothing.  </p>
<p>So aside from using it as a form of procrastination, why not world-build <i>within</i> the story?  Like developing a secondary character.  Someone just came from such and such a place to enter the scene&#8230; so, what was it like?</p>
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		<title>By: Saint Know-All</title>
		<link>http://elizaw.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/world-building-woes/#comment-410</link>
		<dc:creator>Saint Know-All</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have mixed feelings about worldbuilding.  I agree that it&#039;s essential for establishing consistency and creating a lush, absorbing environment to draw readers into.  If you&#039;re writing fantasy, you &lt;em&gt;have&lt;/em&gt; to worldbuild, period.

But I find it can be really hard to establish a nice balance between developing a world and actually writing it.  I&#039;ve known many people who focus so much on worldbuilding that they never write the damn story!

Anyway, watching these people develop and develop and never write has made me so leery I hardly worldbuild outside of the actual story.  One of many bad habits that come back to bite me in the ass, so the worldbuilding month definitely interests me even though I&#039;m a bit nervous about it. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have mixed feelings about worldbuilding.  I agree that it&#8217;s essential for establishing consistency and creating a lush, absorbing environment to draw readers into.  If you&#8217;re writing fantasy, you <em>have</em> to worldbuild, period.</p>
<p>But I find it can be really hard to establish a nice balance between developing a world and actually writing it.  I&#8217;ve known many people who focus so much on worldbuilding that they never write the damn story!</p>
<p>Anyway, watching these people develop and develop and never write has made me so leery I hardly worldbuild outside of the actual story.  One of many bad habits that come back to bite me in the ass, so the worldbuilding month definitely interests me even though I&#8217;m a bit nervous about it. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ken Kiser</title>
		<link>http://elizaw.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/world-building-woes/#comment-409</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Kiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The world-building event sounds interesting. Maybe I&#039;ll stop by.

Either way, whether I participate or not, I&#039;ll definitely be reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The world-building event sounds interesting. Maybe I&#8217;ll stop by.</p>
<p>Either way, whether I participate or not, I&#8217;ll definitely be reading.</p>
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		<title>By: elizaw</title>
		<link>http://elizaw.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/world-building-woes/#comment-408</link>
		<dc:creator>elizaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, my world is a little odd, so I was going to focus on some parts more than others, and I&#039;m leaving this open-ended so writers of things other than speculative fiction can join in. 

As for myself, Patricia C. Wrede wrote a good &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sfwa.org/writing/worldbuilding1.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;guide to world-building&lt;/a&gt; that I think I&#039;ll follow (if perhaps loosely).  It goes over world basics, physical/historical features, magic systems, people, customs, government, commerce, trade, and daily life.

I&#039;ll probably make this a formal announcement on Saturday, when I have time to plug it formally. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, my world is a little odd, so I was going to focus on some parts more than others, and I&#8217;m leaving this open-ended so writers of things other than speculative fiction can join in. </p>
<p>As for myself, Patricia C. Wrede wrote a good <a href="http://www.sfwa.org/writing/worldbuilding1.htm" rel="nofollow">guide to world-building</a> that I think I&#8217;ll follow (if perhaps loosely).  It goes over world basics, physical/historical features, magic systems, people, customs, government, commerce, trade, and daily life.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll probably make this a formal announcement on Saturday, when I have time to plug it formally. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: nymeria87</title>
		<link>http://elizaw.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/world-building-woes/#comment-407</link>
		<dc:creator>nymeria87</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quick bursts are always awesome! I had mine the end of May when I finished my first draft writing 30k in two weeks (let&#039;s just say your caffeine consume is bound to shoot through the roof :p ) Good luck with hitting your deadline and man, it does feel awesome to be done with that first draft - says I now in the middle of editing woes...

Anyway, I do like the idea of a worldbuilding month, especially since I&#039;m working more and more on mine, because I can&#039;t help but notice some gaps here and there. Any idea how to structure it yet? Maybe one week on geography, one week on history, one week on religion and one week on magic or something like that? Just an idea, but I&#039;m all in for it :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quick bursts are always awesome! I had mine the end of May when I finished my first draft writing 30k in two weeks (let&#8217;s just say your caffeine consume is bound to shoot through the roof :p ) Good luck with hitting your deadline and man, it does feel awesome to be done with that first draft &#8211; says I now in the middle of editing woes&#8230;</p>
<p>Anyway, I do like the idea of a worldbuilding month, especially since I&#8217;m working more and more on mine, because I can&#8217;t help but notice some gaps here and there. Any idea how to structure it yet? Maybe one week on geography, one week on history, one week on religion and one week on magic or something like that? Just an idea, but I&#8217;m all in for it <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: elizaw</title>
		<link>http://elizaw.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/world-building-woes/#comment-406</link>
		<dc:creator>elizaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>145K? That&#039;s long, even for fantasy. Good luck to you, and thanks for coming!

I&#039;m hoping to go on a quick burst and finish the book in the next two weeks; then starting August I&#039;m going to be hosting a carnival event. You&#039;re more than welcome to join in, if it so interests you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>145K? That&#8217;s long, even for fantasy. Good luck to you, and thanks for coming!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m hoping to go on a quick burst and finish the book in the next two weeks; then starting August I&#8217;m going to be hosting a carnival event. You&#8217;re more than welcome to join in, if it so interests you.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Kiser</title>
		<link>http://elizaw.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/world-building-woes/#comment-405</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Kiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just stumbled upon your blog somehow... not quite sure how I got here, but I must say i like what I see.  It&#039;s great to see a fellow fantasy writer who has shown the fortitude to break 70k words!  Good luck with finishing it.

I recently completed a 145K word novel that I started submitting 17 days ago. I&#039;m hoping for the best myself. 

Anyway, there seems to be enough good stuff going on here on your blog, that I&#039;m going to link to it. That way I can get here easier without having to leave breadcrumbs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just stumbled upon your blog somehow&#8230; not quite sure how I got here, but I must say i like what I see.  It&#8217;s great to see a fellow fantasy writer who has shown the fortitude to break 70k words!  Good luck with finishing it.</p>
<p>I recently completed a 145K word novel that I started submitting 17 days ago. I&#8217;m hoping for the best myself. </p>
<p>Anyway, there seems to be enough good stuff going on here on your blog, that I&#8217;m going to link to it. That way I can get here easier without having to leave breadcrumbs!</p>
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